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1989-09-19 Jt Meeting Minutes JOINT MEETING FRANKFORT TOWN BOARD AND PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION September 19, 1989 Frankfort Town Hall 9:50 PM PRESENT: Den Pichler, Alfred Zachman, Dave Melanson, Ray Daleiden, Jeff Zachman, Don 'Forsythe, Perry Zachman, Glen Daleiden The Planning ~ Zoning Commission requested a joint meeting with the Town Board to discuss and clarify the needs of the Township. One issue discussed concerned the issue of the cul-de-sac maximum length of 500'. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended the Town Board not approve tt1e Frankfort Heights and Barthel Roll ing Hills developments because each of the developments include cul-de-sacs exceeding the 500' maximum. The Planning and Zoning Commission was left with the impression that the Town Board did not consider the Planning and Zoning's opinion. Pichler pointed out that the cul-de-sac in the Barthel Roll ing Hills development is a temporary cul-de-sac only. It will someday join with other streets in property not yet developed. The Frankfort Heights development was approved by the Town Board because the topography of the land does not allow the developer to alter the proposal. Melanson pointed out that he feels the ordinance requiring cul-de-sacs to be 500' or less is in error. He indicated that cul-de-sacs are a good planning technique for safety reasons. He also pointed out that the maintenance man has no problems with maintaining cul-de-sacs. Alfred Zachman does not approve of cul-de-sacs in new developments. The Township should not encourage more cul-de-sacs. Forsythe feels the 500' maximum cul-de-sac is a deterrent for new developments. Cul-de-sacs are dead-end roads and should be avoided where possible. The ordinance pertaining to cul-de-sacs was discussed. Randy Marsh believed the ordinance was taken word-for-word from the Wright County ordinances, but he does knot know the reasons Wright County adopted this ordinance. Perry Zachman recommended that the Township contact Wright County to find out the reasoning behind the ordinance. If the ordinance should be changed, the Township should take steps to do so. If there are legitimate reasons for the 500' maximum, the Township then should adhere to its present ordinance. Alfred Zachman agreed to talk to the Wright County Planing & Zoning to get the reasons this ordinance was passed. Perry Zachman asked is the Township engineer and/or attorney should attend the Planning & Zoning meetings. The Town Board told Planning and Zoning to feel free to invite the engineer and/or attorney to meetings when needed. Melanson reported that he has asked the engineer to be more vocal to the Planning and Zoning Commission concerning new developments presented. Perry Zachman suggested that the Township may need a comprehensive water plan. He also suggested that the comprehensive plan adopted by the Town Board be reviewed by both boards. Randy Marsh suggested that there are some building ordinances that no longer comply with the state requirements. He recommended a 1 ist of ordinances that may need to be looked at be compiled. The Town Board agreed to have the attorney work on redrafting several ordinance changes already suggested at prior meetings, as well as any additional ordinances to be considered. The Board set November 1 as a deadl ine for the draft of the changed ordinances. The Planning and Zoning Commission members have heard complaints over the plan to develop the Township only on the east side of County Road 19. Alfred Zachman reported that Wright County has sent two copies of a Frankfort Township map. These maps will be color-coded by zoning. The meeting adjourned o PM. ~~~-- Rolsing, Clerk