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1997-04-08 Golf Course Cmte Agenda , \ GOLF COURSE c:::<:ItiITTEE AGENDA April 8, 1997 6:30 PH 6:30 PM 1. CALL TO ORDER 6: 31 PM 2. SPECIAL ORDER (Camlittee/Pilot) Cedar Creek/Golf Course/Center Oaks 7 : 00 PM 3. ADJOURm4Elft' ATTENDEES: Patricia Stalberger John Vetsch Howard Larson Jim Brown Gary Hale r Liz Stockman ,'1>'. PLANNING & ZONING CXHtISSION April 8,.1997 7:00 PH 7:00 PM 1. 7:02 PM 2. 7:05 PM 3. 8:00 PM 3. "t,' 9:10 PM 4. 9:11 PM 5. , CALL '1'0 ORDER/ROLL CALL/ADOPT AGERDA (Chair/Secretary/Camlission) APPROVAL OF HIlfU'l'ES (Camlission) a. Regular Meeting - March 11, 1997 b. Special Meeting - March 31, 1997 SPECIAL ORDER - PUBLIC HEARINGS a. Rezone Lots 1 & 2, Block 4, Greenhaven Estates, from A-2 to B-3 (Tony L~) b. Comprehensive Plan Amendment (Outlot A, Parkside 3rd Addition, etc.) from commercial and low density residential to medium density residential (Pilot/Feneis) c. Rezone Outlot A, Parkside 3rd Addition, etc. from B-3 and R-IA to PUD (Planned Unit Development) (Pilot/Feneis) d. Prel iminary & Final PI at Approval - Cottages of Albertville (Feneis) URFIRISHED BUSINESS a. Comprehensive Parks & Trail Plan & Policies (Planner) Right of Way Width/Traffic Flow Analysis (Eng/Planner) Cedar Creek/Center Oaks/Golf Course (Pilot) b. c. RE.W BUSIRESS None ADJOURm4Elft' (Carmission) 'f .' ''''.a PLARRlRO & leBlRO <XHtISSleB March 11, 1997 Albertville City Ball 7:00 PM PRESENT: Chair Donatus Vetsch, Commissioners Jim Carol yn Bauer, Howard Larson, and Dan Robertus, Administrator Hale and City Planner Stockman Chair Vetsch convened the regular meeting at 7:00 PM. Moved by Larson, supported by Brown to adopt the agenda. All voted aye. Brown, Zoning Moved by Brown, supported by Robertus, to approve the minutes of the February 11, 1997, regular meeting. All voted aye. Chair Vetsch moved to proposed changes to the Subdivision ^' Ordinance. City PI anner Stockman reviewed the suggested changes to the proposed ordinance A.500 from the February 11, 1997, meeting. The ordinance is dealing with subdividers will submit a sketch plan for adjacent properties. Ordinance A-GOO streets is dealing with a single street that does not provide a second street access int%ut of the subdivision and number of vehicle trips per day is a determining factor. Security to complete the street and/or limit number of building permits. A time limit of one year is included. Moved by Larson. supported by Robertus, to table Ordinance A- 500 and A-GOO to the regular April 8, 1997, meeting. All voted aye. Chair Vetsch opened a second discussion on Ordinance 2500 - Antennas. Planner Stockman discussed the second draft. Further, Stockman discussed portable antenna with 90 foot height limits and 120 day time limits. Larkin, Hoffman, Daly and Lindgren, attorneys, were present to discuss their clients views on antennas. Mr. Korstad. Planning Commissioners discussed antenna locations, zoning, co-location, construction requirements, engineer requirements of "licensed professional engineers" versus "competent radio frequency engineer", antenna height. Moved by Brown, supported by Larson, to recommend Ordinance #1997-2 Antennas to the City Council for approval with amendments. All voted aye. Chair Vetsch opened discussion on 57th Street NE Extension from CSAH 19 to Maine Street NE (CSAH 35). Discussion covered the . ~ PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION March 11, 1997 Page 2 of 3 need to have the road completed for traffic flow. Commissioner Brown mentioned reasons: 1) Traffic; 2) Orderly development; 3) Safety - access for emergency vehicles; 4) Pedestrian traffic; and so on. Bernard Marx was present todiscuss 57th street. zoning and street widths. Concerns were Liz Stockman discussed collector street width feet versus 60 feet local street. Howard Larson Marx's would not allow access on to 57th street houses. Access on by streets. right of way 80 mentioned that by residential Council Member Berning refreshed those present on how the Comprehensive Plan was determined and adopted. Zoning was considered as were street types (widths). Chair Vetsch and Commissioner Robertus restated a collector road with a 40 foot width road surface and 80 foot right of way. Commissioner Brown reinforced the need of 80 feet to accommodate a trail. Planner Stockman stated City Engineer Carlson would consider a 70 foot right of way. Don Jensen of Pi I ot Land discussed alternatives to 80 foot right of ways. Jim Brown felt this issue would not go away. Doug Psyk has 37 feet back to back on 53rd street and a 60 foot right of way. Further discussion by all pr'esent revol ved around existing road sections that were not proper width on 57th street by the church and 53rd Street in the residential area. Bernard Marx requested zoning changes on 57th street NE. Wants more commercial property, eliminating some residential. Zoning Administrator Hale discussed fees and applicant turn- around. Chair Vetsch asked about Bernard Marx idea on completing 57th street NE. Moved by Brown, supported by Larson, based on findings of need 1) Orderly development; 2) Public safety; 3) Traffic flow patterns; 4) Pedestrian traffic, the Planning Commission is recommending that the City Council explore the installation of 57th Street NE from CSAH 19 to Lander Avenue NE to include cooperation with abutting property owners and/or condemnation. All voted aye. Don Jensen of Pilot Development presented an update to the Golf Course Committee's second meeting held March 11,1997, at 6:30 'l' PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION March 11, 1997 Page 3 of 3 PM. The concept includes "coving" and a golf course. Commissioner Larson discusses ongoing concern over two family housing. Commissioner Brown reviewed the meeting with the number of two family as a concern and the ability to restrict by contract performance standards. Chair Vetsch opened discussion Development. Planner Stockman discussed Stockman discussed road fi II width of Engineer Carlson was in agreement. on the D'Aigle/Swanson access through the lake. 28 feet between lakes. Liz stockman moved to D'Aigle. Discussed road access points to 70th street NE, keep MacIver and paving both streets. Commission needs to discuss issues to provide direction on the D'Aigle questions. Discussed paving. No consensus. D'Aigle's were not interested in paying for otsego's share of the road. Cost benefit is a factor. Commissioners concerned about "premature" development. A direction for the D'Aigle's would be preferred. Commissioners Brown and Robertus were concerned about the issues of road access, utilities, road pavement and a shared road create an environment where "premature" is the answer for today. Rod D'Aigle stated access to CSAH 19 would not affect their development. Road access would be 70th street and MacIver and the shared road matter is their problem. Consensus was to have D'Aigle's talk to Joint Services and Transportation Committee. Moved by Larson, supported by Vetsch, to schedule a special meeting on March 25, 1997, at 7:00 PM. All voted aye. Moved by Larson, supported by Vetsch, to adjourn at 10:42 PM. Donatus Vetsch, Chair Garrison Hale, Zoning Admin.