1998-07-22 First Plan Review08/12/1993 14:11 612-497-4908 JOINT POWERS
tw R, Green CO�'1' pa y
NSULTING ENGINEERS
July 22, 1998
File' 804430J
Donne Kipka
Joint Powers Water Board
P.O. Box 10
Albertville, IUIN 55301
RE: 1 IMINEAPOU3 OUTLET MALT.
FIRST PLAN REVIEW
Dear Ms. K pke:
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We have reviewed the plans received on July 9t', 1998, for the above -referenced project, and
offer the foiiowing comments_
• This project adds a temporary stead end watermain 2,375 feet in length. The main tine that
runs through the project will not be looped until such time as watermain is eonstrracted, as
part Of Mure projects, either to the east or west and then back to the south across 1-35.
This once again raises the tornporary dead main issue for the Board's ,;on►sideration.
• This project also contains a. permanent dead end main that branches from the 12-inch line,
There i;= a 6-inch water $*Nice for ft west half of the project 815 feet down this Ilne; the
line then extends another 50o feet to provide hydrant coverage for the west side of the
project. An attempt shoL4d be mad.e to find a way to bop the water system through this
project.
• The plan does not meet the firs hydrant coverage requirements of the Board. The west_.
northwest Corner and east-northeast corner of the outlet center are more than 250 feet from
a hydrant. Improvements should i7e made to the hydrant coverage an, this project.
• There i; another issue with hydrant coveragein that all of the hydrants are on the same
$ide of !tie buildings. Since the buildings are very long, there would be no Iivoass to fire
hydrant , rrlang most of the back side of the buildings. While this is not W;hnicaily against
Board requirements, it does preclude the type of access to water supply that the Board's
standeN tries to address.
• Parts of Lots 3, 4, and 5 are not with 250 foot of a hydrant, but since no information is given
as to building type or location, it is not possible to determine if hydrant coverage meets the
Board's standards.
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Ms. Danna {ipka
July 22, 19548
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• The en�3 of the 12-inch line on the north end of the project is shown as stubbed off with a
plug. A. temporary hydrant should be added at this point to allow flushing of the line, as per
Board requirements.
• No specifications were submitted with the plans. A copy of the project specifcation$ shoulc
be provded to the Board.
The pians specify ductile icon pipe for the watorrnain. Filoard 7oliey requires that all
prop s als for bids shall include PVC watermain as s base bio or as are alternsOvs. laic Item.
• The piar a do nct show oaserner0� f;.r the w3te.rmsin or hydrarits. Sinoe all of the watermain
Is on private property, a utility easement must be provided and shown on the pions or on a
plat.
Profile plans for the utilities were not provided, which makes it impossibis to determine if
there ire separation conflicts between the watemmsain e act ather utilfiz;T_ !,!tiliV Profile ;dens
shoulc be submitted for review.
• The pians call for the use of butterfly valves on the 12-Inch watermain. Board standards
require gate valves on 12-inch lima, intl the p4soc s'►oi �:d ba changed to show gate vavles.
Joint Powers Water Board Standards for Watermain Construction are not referenced on the
plans, This is necessary, since the plan detail sheets do not show some. specific
requirements of the Board,
until the above items are addressed, we do not recommend apprcvel of the plans for this
project, 11,you have any questions, please call me.
Sincerely,
Howard 'i'4, Green Co.
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Randy D. Surbaiugh, PE
Project F rrgineer
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Cc; iohn iBartelson
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