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1996-05-28 PC Agenda Packet CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Agenda To the best of our knowledge there was no record of an agenda associated with the following minutes. . PLARRIRG & ZOIfIRG COItKISSIOIf Hal' 28, 1996 Albertville city Hall 7:00 PM PRESENT: Chair LeRoy Berning (7:03 PM) Commission Members Donatus Vetsch, Sharon Anderson, Howard Larson and Jim Brown Moved by Larson, supported by Brown to adopt the agenda. Motion carried unanimously. Acting Chair Anderson moved to unfinished site plan of Mike Savitski for Sunrise Addition on Lot 3, Block 2, Sunrise Commercial Park. Liz Stockman presented planning approval of the revised site plan and read a memo dated May 22, 1996 from City Engineer Pete Carlson approving the revised site plan. Storm water detention Lot 3, Block 2, Sunrise Commercial Park. City Attorney Couri forwarded a memo dated May 17, 1996, and recommended approval. Moved by Larson, supported by Anderson to recommend approval of the Mike Savi tski site pI an for Sunrise PI umbing for Lot 3, Block 2, Sunrise Commercial Park. Motion carried unanimously. 4It Chair Berning moved to the Comprehensive Plan - Development Framework. City Planner Stockman opened with District Five, which is the focus of the commercial district. District Three north of railroad tracks commercial and south of the tracks residential. LeRoy Berning had been receiving comments that confusion existed about the present commercial business district and location of new areas for commercial focus. Stockman restated Berning's comments and concerns on commercial areas. Consensus was to revisit the areas and any changes. Brown felt that the community's focus and identity ran to 57th Street. Stockman identified a shift toward the freeway with a more regional focus on business bringing the commercial with it. Maintain B-4 from CSAH 37 to 57th Street both east and west sides of Main Avenue NE. 4It Berning moved to Particle Control and the Coop. Liz Stockman would adjust B-3 to include the Coop. Particle Control is already B-3. Parks behind City Park were discussed for future. Commission requested additional park land be included to present City Park as part of the Proposed Land Use Plan. . . . PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION May 28, 1996 Page 2 of 4 Commissioner Larson discussed R-8 for elderly housing on Marx property. Wetlands and potential for buildable land on Marx property was reviewed as well as land behind parish for firehall and parks. Councilmember Berning inquired of Stockman about medium density versus low density for property east of church. Berning suggested everything north of proposed 57th Street be planned as medium density. Larson asked how the City can control land to a special use. Don Jensen of Kenco suggested a zoning class that carries the City desires and change it if required. Commissioner Brown suggested having the proposed land use plan showing park. Berning suggests park. Councilmember Berning discussed B-3 versus R-8 on 57th Street and CSAH 19. Councilmember Vetsch reviewed maintaining a balance of low density to high density as well as to available land for commercial. Planner Stockman followed up Mayor Potter's concern on available high density site. City Attorney Couri informed Stockman that the City maintains its balances as determined by its plan there is not a problem. Councilmember Vetsch inquired about present status of ratio balance and mix on low versus high density. Commissioner Larson reviewed proposed medium density with Commission feeling satisfied with mix. Don Jensen of Kenco discussed Beatrice Roden's property and possible road and development use for the property linking Westwind 2nd to Parkside 3rd. Jensen discussed use of ag lime for trail system. For safety separate out pedestrians from traffic. Brown discussed trail dedication fee with park dedication fee. Discussed formal plan that may have flexibility based on each development. Equitable treatment. Councilmember Anderson. Liz Stockman discussed larger lots. Don Jensen of Kenco would like an absorption study done to compare the home buyers choices on lots, amenities, and the like. What will home buyers purchase and why. Concern exists on larger lot widths (more streets, utilities, un. u] . PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION May 28, 1996 Page 3 of 4 and park fees). Makes the housing unaffordable. Commission Brown inquired of Don Jensen about Kenco's findings on home buyer choices. Jensen suggested a progressive walking system and other amenities in exchange for more R-1 (12,500 square feet) lot versus R1-A (15,000 Square feet). Don Jensen believes in larger lots in areas where the 1 and areas carries higher home val ues and 1 ess disruption to land system. Councilmember Berning suggested blend to larger lots next to rural areas such as Frankfort Township and otsego. Zoning Administrator Hale questioned the possible use of a formula for mixing lot sizes of 12,500 to 15,000 square feet. Commissioner Anderson wants to see room between neighbors and room for children. Counci Imember Vetsch stated that lot sizes need to provide for enough room for three car garages. Comm~ssioner Brown brought up persons per acre. Don Jensen brought up minimum completed living area. . Duane Berning emphasized "life cycle" housing with one acre lots are a communi ty desire. Jenson reinforced "neighborhood parks" as a goal to continue working on. LeRoy Berning and Jim Brown felt that lot sizes increases were important in moving the community toward full cycle housing. Liz Stockman brought up Brittany Kay Estates and definition of a lot may need to be reviewed. Jim Brown mentioned some lots had too much wetlands and the acutal usable land area. Discussion on build out for lots was no panic or concern. The Commission is not in a hurry to build all the land. Councilmember Vetsch stated the need for a. "communi ty" exists. He is not concerned about a fast build. A moderate pace is more acceptable. Developers are here for the today and gone tomorrow. John Vetsch and Gary Hale discussed community. Commissioner Anderson complimented Don Jensen and Rod D'Aigle for attending the meeting and maintaining an open dialogue from a developer's viewpoint. Planner Stockman moved to holding a public hearing. have neighborhood meetings or a large meeting. Could . Moved by Larson, supported by Brown, to recommend a joint Planning & Zoning Public Hearing with the City Council for June 17, 1996, at 7:00 PM in the City Hall Council Chambers for the purposed of considering the "City of Albertville Comprehensive Plan" dated June 1996. Further to authorize the city clerk and planner to place a legal advertisement and notice in the Crow River News and City Hall window. Motion carried unanimously. . . . PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION May 28, 1996 Page 4 of 4 Moved by Anderson, supported by Brown, to adjourn at 8:58 PM. All voted aye. LeRoy Berning, Chair ,~~ Garrison Hale, Zoning Adm.