1997-02-11 PC Agenda Packet
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PLANNING & ZONING cx:tMISSION
February 11, 1997
7:00 PM
1.
CALL ,.0 ORDER/ROLL CALL/ADOPT AGENDA
(Chair/Secretary/Comrrdssion)
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ANNUAL HEE'fING (Comrrdssion/Secretary)
a. Oath of Office - New Members
b. Elect Chair
c. Elect Vice Chair
d. Elect Secretary & Assistant Secretary
3.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES (Comrrdssion)
Regular Meeting - January 14, 1997
4.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
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b.
Comprehensive Parks & Trail Plan (Planner)
Proposed change of Subdivision Ordinance
regarding preliminary plats (Planner)
Antenna - proposed ordinance (Planner)
57th street NE Extension (Comrrdssion)
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5.
NEW BUSINESS
a. Cedar Creek/Center Oaks/Golf Course Report
(Zoning Adrrdnistrator)
b. Senior Housing Report (Zoning Adrrdnistrator)
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ADJOURNHEIfT (Conmission)
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PLAIUIIRG & ZORIRG COMHISSIOR
February 11, 1997
Albertville City Hall
7:00 PM
PRESENT: Commissioners Jim' Brown, Donatus Vetsch, Carolyn
Bauer, Howard Larson, and Dan Robertus, Zoning Administrator Hale
and City Planner Stockman
Zoning Administrator' convened the meeting at 7: 00 PM and
administered the oath of offices to the Planning & Zoning
Commission. Hale then moved to the annual meeting and called for
the nomination for chair, vice chair, secretary and assistant
secretary.
Moved by Larson, supported by Robertus to nominate Donatus
Vetsch for chair. All ,voted aye.
Moved by Vetsch, supported by Brown to nominate Howard Larson
for vice chair. All ~oted aye.
Moved by Brown, supported by Robertus, to nominate Carolyn
Bauer for secretary. All voted aye.
Moved by Robertus, supported by Brown, to nomiIlate the Zoning
Administrator or Deputy Zoning Administrator as Assistant
Secretary, who wi 11 record the minutes, keep the records, and
process the Commission's actions on behalf of the secretary. All
voted aye.
Moved by Brown, supported by Vetsch to adopt the agenda as
presented. All voted aye.
Moved by Brown, supported by Vetsch to approve the minutes of
the January 14, 1997~ meeting. All voted aye.
Planner Stockman requested that the chair allow some movement
to the agenda for the purposes of/accommodating those present in
the audience.
Stockman presented a draft ordinance on antennas and informed
the Commissioners that the ordinance is based/on the federal model.
It includes a section on antennas previously lacking in the City's
ordinances. Recommends antenna locations in Public/Institutional
Zoning Districts with the use of Conditional Use Permits in certain
specified circumstances. Satellite dishes in residential districts
would require a conditional use permit for dishes over one meter.
(Federal regulations authorize up to one meter.)
Ciommissioner Larson discussed towers and their danger of
collapsing. How to handle? An attorney from L~rkin, Hoffman, and
Daly explained that a weak can be engineered into the tower to
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prevent a large area collapse.
Chair .Vetsch asked about grandfathering in existing dishes.
Planner Stockman stated they should be included in the ordinance as
pre-existing. Commissioner Larson discussed lot setbacks.
Liz Stockman moved to Commercial and Public Radio and
Television Transmitting Towers. Larson was concerned about
transmitters bleeding/interfering with local residents. Further
concerns related to Ham Radio Operators.
Commissioner Brown distributed information on "co-location"
and requested that the Commission consider the approach to minimize
the cost and number of towers.
Moved by Brown, supported by Robertus to table Ordinance No.
2500 Antenna Regulations to March II, 1997. Further, to
incorporate items introduced by Larkin, Hoffman & Daly, Attorneys
at Law as appropriate. All voted aye.
Steve Feneis and Terry Mick were present to discuss the
Cottages of Albertville Senior Housing for those 55 years and older
or handicapped. Proposed project scheduled for 57th Street NE and
CSAH 19 (pilot Land Development Property).
Feneis Brothers requests from the city the following:
(1) PUD Zoning (Presently B-3 and RI-A)
(2) Subdivide Lots (3 Lots)
(3) City Participation (TIF Housing District "pay as you go"
Due to requirements of rental units and lower rents, Feneis
would utilize a non-profit corporation coupled with tax increment
financing required for the "For rent". Use development note.
Feneis recommends development agreement with minimum age limitation
of 55 years for rentals with no one under 18 years of age permitted
to live in the property. Build slab on grade, 1250 square foot,
double attached garage/town house owners agreement.
Steve Feneis or Feneis Realty and Investment, explained that
increases in property values above initial frozen amount goes back
to school/county/city.
Commissioner Brown was concerned with and had questions
regarding the number of units as being more than the market can
bear.
Chair Vetsch explained need for senior housing. Larson
confirmed there was a "seniors" meeting at the Parish Center with
approximately 80 attendees with interest.
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Commissioner Robertus expressed concerns . about using prime
commercial land for housing. Brown echged the same concerns.
Larson discussed quad-homes and can they be control I ed as to
ownership mix.
Steve Feneis discussed building quad homes in other
communities. I Terry Mick, a partner in the project~ is constructing
quad homes in Mt. .Iron (13 out of 16 ~old).
Brown felt the market would take care of some problems related
to owner/rental mix. Commissioners were cautious.
Feneis stated cottage homes and town homes are "rental". Quad
homes are the "for sale". There is a community room in the rental
area with laundry facilities.
Commissioner Larson discussed the need for parking and asked
the planner. Stockman was satisfied on parking.
Steve Feneis estimated taxes on the quad homes at $1,000 per
unit.
Developer Feneis requested support for a TIF Housing District
with 44 units of rental property limited to seniors 55 years of age
or older.
Commissioner Brown requested an opportuni ty to become more
familiar with the project and develop a comfort for the project.
Moved by Larson, supported by Robertus, to recommend the
Cottages of Albertville; 44 units of Senior Housing (55 years of
age or older) to the city Council for consideration as a tax
increment financing project utilizing a "Housing District" and will
be "for rent" with the term of the district matching the bond up to
state maximum. Robertus, Bauer, Vetsch and Larson voted aye.
Brown voted no. The motion carried.
Brown was concerned about benefi ts and costs of the total
project.
Chair Vetsch opened the Cedar Creek/Center Oaks/Golf Course
discussion.
Richard Harrison of Planning Design and Don Jensen of Pilot
Land Development presented "Cedar Creek Addi tion" using an approach
called ";coving". Mr. Harrison utilized slides and floor models to
give the audience a feel for the concept of coving. Lots were more
varied, with less footage for streets so city and developer save
money and caving softens the perception of the development.
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Don Jensen explained to use coving would require a "PUD"
zoning.
Planner Stockman was concerned about rear yards and lot lines.
Rich Harrison discussed modif1ing the rear yard lines to
accommodate areas of concern.
Don Jensen discussed lot size, fencing, and redrafting lot
lines to accommodate commissioners' concerns.
Liz Stockman and Richard Harrison discussed trail locations
and front yard setbacks. I
Dan Robertus asked about home values, $120,000-$180,000 was
Don Jensen's response with lot sizes of 18,000+ square feet.
Jim Brown asked how the number of lots compare between
traditional and coved design. Liz Stockman stated that the number
of lots about the same.
Howard Larson and Gary Hale liked "coving".
for a "PUD" with setbacks, etc., predetermined.
to 18,000+. 90 lots.
Don Jensen asked
Lot si\zes 14,500
Don Jensen stated builder Tony Emrich used a coved development
in the City of Centerville. Richard Harrison said coved can be
moved around to accommodate innovative ideas.
Jim Brown asked does the cgncept work. Richard Harrison
explained the coved concept is about three years old. The home
ownership, housing types and the like are the same as traditional.
Yards, streets, green space, etc. are new.
Consensus of Commissioners Larson, Robertus, Bauer, Brown and
Vetsch is to continue with the coved idea.
Consensus of the Commission after a brief review of the second
part of the Comprehensive Park & Trai I PI an was to continue
discussion at the March zoning meeting.
Planner Stockman
requirements proposal.
reviewed
the
preliminary
platting
Stockman reviewed deadend roads anq lack of access. She
distributed a proposed ordinance for cpnsideration.
Don Jensen discussed accesses out of the development.
would approvals be stopped. What is a reasonable time?
When
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Chair Vetsch discussed condemnation and need for a Findings of
Fact on 57th street NE.
Moved by Larson, supported by Robertus, to adjourn at 10:26
PM.
Donatus Vetsch, Chair
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Garrison Hale, Zoning Admin.
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