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1997-06-24 PC Agenda Packet CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Agenda To the best of our knowledge there was no record of an agenda associated with the following minutes. . JO:urr P~IRO & ZmlIRG CClItKISSlmI & elft C01BCIL ~TIRG June 2&: 1997 Albertville City Hall 7:00 PM PRESENT: Mayor Mark Olsen, Councilmembers Duane Berning, John Vetsch, Robert Gundersen, and Patti Stalberger, Planning Commission Chair Howard Larson, Commission Members Dan Robertus, and Donatus Vetsch, Planner Liz Stockman, and Zoning Administrator Garrison Hale Chair Larson convened the special joint meeting for the purpose of a public meeting on the final draft of the Comprehensive Parks & Trails Plan for Albertville. Moved by Robertus, supported by Vetsch, to adopt the agenda as presented. All voted aye. . Zoning Administrator Hale introduced the Comprehensive Parks & Trails Plan. City Planner Stockman opened discussion by reviewing existing parks and trail facilities. Stockman highlighted park status: Westwind Park - Complete as built Four Seasons Park - Complete as built Lions/City Park - Double in size for added active recreation facilities Further discussion by Stockman focused on national standards for park land sizes. Forecasts for the year 2000 sees approximately 20 acres required based on slow growth estimates. Present acres about 14. . Survey findings from 1996 were lack of parks as number one. People wanted neighborhood facilities over large facilities. Trails, pool, and hockey as most desired. The most undesired snowmobiles, ball fields, and pools. People desired to walk one mile or less with trails separated from the street. Most said yes to trails in back yards if properly screened. Councilmember Berning entered the meeting at 7:16 PM. Planner Stockman explained park fees and that the city attorney wants park designs and cost estimates to substantiate the park dedication fees for dollars or land dedications. . . . JOIH"l' MEftIHG June 24, 1997 Page 2 of 4 Liz stockman reviewed the sixteen park sites actual and proposed. Estimates for future land site availability and the potential in acquiring needed acreage to satisfy park planning. Lions/City Park and Winter Park (Kolles Property) may be the most immediate site. The Planner reviewed the "City of Albertville 1997-1998 Park Facility Improvement Plan" page 23 of draft Comprehensive Parks & Trails Plan. Planner stockman moved to an open discussion on the plan. Councilmembers and Commissioners discussed the plan. One main item was the small town atmosphere vs. crowded urban setting. More discussion was focused on land vs. dollars and maintenance costs. Liz Stockman requested comment on park locations and the facilities to be established therein. Chair Larson requested consideration for park names. sixteen parks were named. All Discussion on restroom and drinking water locations. More discussion was held on what specific items would be included in each park. Usage of equipment, such as shuffleboard, horseshoes, basketball, etc. Citizen LeRoy Berning offered the idea of a swimming pool. Consensus of all present was to have an indoor pool incorporated into a community center or school facility. A partnership may be required. A year-round facility would be more desirable. City Planner Stockman introduced the "Proposed Trails" plan as shown on page 28 of the draft final plan. Stockman reviewed the existing trails moving into proposed trails. Further, she discussed trail standards. Planner Stockman explained On-street Trails, Grade Separated Trails, and Overland Trails. Snowmobile trails were included as a guide. Trails 10 foot corridor 8 foot trails. Councilmembers discussed winter maintenance, uses, rollerblades, bikers, walkers, joggers, etc. (multi-users). Questions on who maintains? Property owner, city? Who takes care of boulevard? . . . JOI.,. MEE'l'I.G June 24, 1997 Page 3 of 4 Planning Commissioners refreshed those present that the trails were not to be plowed. Councilmembers explained neighboring cities started the same way and now the cities are paying by plowing. Chair Larson asked the question should the city plow trails. Discussion followed. Composition of trails questioned. stockman explained on an interim basis less than bituminous with final trail being paved. Liz Stockman addressed the question of trial priority and disclosure by the developer to property owners. Addi tional discussion focused on grade-separated trails vs. on-street trails. Reason for grade-separated trails is safety. Councilmembers and Commissioners discussed trail types and the need for the number of trails proposed in the plan. Concerns for property damage was explored as it applies to trails on private property. Vandalism is an issue. Sidewalks were discussed in lieu of a trail. Chair Larson discussed the trails plan and that developers are offering alternatives that may work in lieu of the exact plan. Councilmembers discussed timing of trail installation as it relates to plat development. Councilmember Berning asked for a joint consensus on timing on trail installation so the planner, engineer, attorney, and zoning administrator know how to handle the issue of trails. Audience members asked do you want backyard trails? If so, how to handle. Stockman explained a thirty foot trail corridor to help preserve the neighborhood and to install the trails with development. Chair Larson requested input from city attorney on property owner liability for injuries on trail system. Chair Larson discussed consensus of the Planning Commission and Council on proposed trails. Screening on trails between properties was discussed. Consensus to approve the proposed trails. Councilmember John Vetsch is concerned about the number of trails, developers not informing property owners and trails in backyards. Planner Stockman reviewed policies and so on. Discussion and agreement was reached on areas of concern. . . . JOIle'!' MEE'l'IHG June 24, 1997 Page 4 of 4 City Planner reviewed 1997-1998 Park Priorities. The top five priorities were agreed on by consensus. stockman moved to 1997-1998 '!'rail Priorities. Consensus was priorities were modified and agreed on. Moved by Robertus, supported by Vetsch, to adjourn at 11:28 PM. All voted aye. Howard Larson, Chair ~~ Garrison Hale, Zoning Adm.