1997-11-10 PC Agenda Packet
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PLANNING & ZONING CCHlISSION
.oy~r 10, 1997
7:00 PIt
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CALL TO ORDER/ROLL
(Chair/Secretary/C~ssion)
CALL/ADOPT
AGENDA
2. MINUTES
Regular Meeting - October 14, 1997
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SPECIAL ORDER - Continued/Hew
a. An Ordinance Amending the Albertville Sign Ordinance
(1987-3) Relating to Billboards
b. An Ordinance Amending the Albertville Zoning Ordinance
(1988-12) Relating to Minimum Garage Size, Screening,
Landscaping, Back Yards, Structure Placement Above High
Water Elevations, Usable Open Space, Building
Construction Standards, Parking Standards and PUD
Regulations
c. An Ordinance Amending the Albertville Subdivision
Ordinance Relating to Drainage Course Elevations, Buffer
Yard Requirements, Irregular Shaped Lots, Accessory
Structure provision on Residential Lots, Cul-De-Sac
Streets, Protected Areas, Tree Planting and Certification
d. Rezone the Cedar Creek Golf Course Master Plan from R-1A
to PUD
4. HEW BUSINESS
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Order public hearing for the regular December 9th meeting
to consider "Ordinance Amending Section A-GOO.8 and A-
GOO.15 of the Albertville Subdivision Ordinance by
Changing the Park Dedication Fee and Percent Land
Dedication Fee, Requiring the Construction of Trails by
Developers and Setting Forth Guidel ines for Park and
Trail Design"
General Information
All Metro
Center Oaks
Bob Potter/Industrial Park
Mike Potter site
Kolles letter from Jensen
Race track happenings
Albertville Zoning Ordinance Amendments (Discussion)
Planning Commissioner Vacancy - Discuss D. Vetsch term
expiration and consider reappointment (Note:
Councilmember Stalberger will serve the term from
01/01/98 to 01-01-00 if vacancy occurs)
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5. ADJOURHHEH'f (C~ssion)
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PLARRIRG & ZOIfIRG COHtfISSIOR
Roveaber 10, 1997
Albertville City Ball
7:00 PM
. PRESENT: Chair Howard Larson, Commissioners Carolyn Bauer, Jim
Brown, Donatus Vetsch, and Dan Robertus, Zoning Administrator
Garrison Hale and City Planner Liz Stockman
Chair Larson convened the regular meeting at 1:10 PM.
Moved by Robertus, supported by Brown, to adopt the agenda
with an amendment adding under New Business Item Se - Franklin Sing
- Right of Way and Item Sf - Country Antique CUP. All voted aye.
Moved by Vetsch, supported by Brown, to approve the minutes of
the October 14, 1997, minutes as amended. All voted aye.
Chair Larson opened the continued public hearing on the
Albertville Sign Ordinance at 7:12 PM.
Planner Stockman opened discussion on billboards with (1)
spacing, damage/reconstruction; and billboards of record will be
considered after ten years (2008) as principal uses. Today they
are not principal use.
City Attorney Couri reviewed federal/state laws as it relates
billboard signage.
Keith Franklin of Albertville addressed the issue. Concern
focuses on the concept of tIel iminate" bi llboards. Frankl in not
aware of complaints and is not happy about "principal use".
Further he stated the employees and businesses using the signs are
spending money in the community.
The issue of billboards carne up as a subject in 1994.
Interpretation of ordinance equaled "accessory use" or "adjacent
areas" as confirmed by former Mayor Potter.
Franklin supports billboards on
commercial/industrial use zoning areas.
from 500 to 1,000 feet.
freeway corridor in
Supports spacing change
Commissioner Robertus questioned of Franklin why "Acts of God"
are discriminatory. City Attorney Couri said it woul d not be.
discriminatory.
Mr. Franklin explained CUP not easy to get nor are there any
guarantees on PUD zoning. Ask to el iminate principal uses.
Further discussion with Mr. Couri referencing the legality of the
ordinance leaves Mr. Franklin questioning enforcement due to
concept of "mandatory removal".
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Chair Larson asked for expenses of signs.
stated we had legal costs.
At torney Couri
Conunissioner Brown feels "fees" belong to the City Council.
Further he wants to know what the public thinks.
Larson asked the audience for input. By a show of hands, most
people lived in Albertville, most worked for Franklin Sign.
Mr. Franklin Sr. asked why the City is trying to choke out
bi 11 boards.
Judy Roden was concerned about property owners rights to
change vendors with final year established.
Mike Couri stated landowners need clauses in leases to permit
the vendor to work with them (options) when development may occur.
Kei th Frankl in followed up on spacing and said it is not good
business to put $15,000 to $30,000 in a sign with a short time line
to recoup investment.
Bonnie Hiedelberger from Highland Bank stated it enhances
business. Mr. Franklin stated Pat's 66 supported signage.
Pete Merges stated principal use would stop him from building
a garage. He presently has a house and barn.
Mike Couri discussed ordinance on non-conformance.
Conunissioner Vetsch inquired of Franklin Outdoor what is a
standard spacing. 500 feet majority, some at 750 feet and a few at
1,000 feet. Rogers is 1,000 (Zoning Administrator Hale disagrees).
Question to Mike Couri as who determines 50% damage--Building
Inspection/City Council.
Chair
ordinance.
complaints
a question
Larson asked why we are spending time on the sign
Conunissioner Brown feels time and money premature when
and concerns not present. Jim Brown feels why address
that has no support.
Councilmember Vetsch discussed ra1s1ng rates on billboards.
Conunissioner Brown rediscussed 1,000 foot spacing.
Chair Larson inquired of former Mayor Potter what he remembers
from 1994. Councilmember Berning inquired of restricted area south
of CSAH #37.
Chair Larson requested why the sign ordinance became an
expensive, large issue. What is the outcome. Why?
Counci lmembers, Ci ty Attorney offered up reasons for the
billboard issue and by holding a public hearing clarify the issues.
Councilmember Gundersen explained the Council wanted to review
the ordinance.
Chair Larson closed the public hearing at 8:28 PM.
Conunissioner Robertus wants less signs and a principal use.
Brown supports 1000 feet delete agricultural. Larson concurs if
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sign is destroyed. Vetsch supports one principal use on property.
Bauer supports 1000 foot and principal use.
Moved by Robertus, (no second) to accept draft ordinance as
stated.
Moved by Brown, supported by Bauer, to recommend Ordinance
#1997-16 with 1,000 feet existing and future, strike all other
changes and strike agricultural. Ayes 3 Bauer, Brown and Larson;
Nays Vetsch and Robertus. Motion carried.
Chair Larson opened discussion on Franklin Sign Right of Way.
Zoning Administrator Hale and Planner Stockman discussed the City
Council request for the Planning Commission to determine snowmobile
trail easement requirements of Keith Franklin.
Stockman discuses snowmobile trails widths.
Moved by Brown, supported by Bauer, to recommend no action on
the snowmobile width and to authorize that no snowmobile trail
easement be included in Keith Franklin's land purchase from the
city. All voted aye.
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Moved by Robertus, supported by Vetsch, to order publ ic
hearing to consider "Ordinance Amending Section A-600. 8 and A-
600.15 of the Albertville Subdivision Ordinance by Changing the
Park Dedication Fee and Percent Land Dedication Fee, Requiring the
Construction of Trails by Developers and Setting Forth Guidelines
for Park and Trail Design" on December 9, 1997.
Chair Larson opened the public hearing on rezone the Cedar
Creek Golf Course Master Plan from R-1A to PUD at 8:55 PM.
Don Jensen of Pilot Land was present to discuss prior Council
approval of the master pI an and the need to continue wi th the
rezoning process.
Commissioners inquired of Jensen and Planner Stockman on
sureties for building the course.
Chair Larson closed the public hearing at 8:.59 PM.
Moved by Robertus, supported by Brown, to approve the Findings
of Fact and Recommendation dated November 10,1997, as prepared by
NAC, Inc. and to recommend the City Council approve the rezoning
from R-1A to PUD for the Cedar Creek Golf Course Master Plan. All
voted aye.
Chair Larson opened the continued public hearing on Zoning
Ordinance (1988-12) at 9:06 PM.
Planner Stockman continued the reviewal line by line.
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Discussion was held on how to enforce ordinances.
Commissioner Vetsch concerned about over-regulating. Commissioner
Brown told the Commission set the ordinances how you want it. City
Council assist staff and staff must perform.
Moved by Brown, supported by Robertus, to recommend City
Council approval of the amendment of the Zoning Ordinance (1988-12)
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Relating to Minimum Garage Sizes, Screening, Landscaping, Back
Yards, Structure Placement Above High Water EI evations, Usabl e Open
Space, Building Construction Standards, Parking Standards and PUD
Regulations as amended. All voted aye.
Chair Larson continued the public hearing on "An Ordinance
Amending the Albertville Subdivision Ordinance Relating to Drainage
Course Elevations, Buffer Yard Requirements, Irregular Shaped Lots,
Cul-de-Sac Streets, Protected Ares, Tree Planting and
Certification" to December 9, 1997, at 7:00 PM.
Chair Larson continued the public hearing on the CUP request
for outside storage for International Country Antiques to December
9, 1997, at 7:00 PM. Commissioner Brown informed the Commission
that either this matter gets acted upon or denied. Zoning
Administrator Hale refreshed everyone that this item was being held
up due to the processing of a site/building plan addition to the
International Country Antique facility and with a resolution at the
December meeting.
Zoning Administrator Hale reviewed all "General Information".
Moved by Bauer, supported by Brown, to adjourn at 10:46 PM.
All voted aye.
Howard Larson, Chair
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Garrison Hale,/Zoning Admin.
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