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2005-11-02 CC Minutes Joint WorkshopCITY OF OTSEGO Formatted: Font: (Default) Times New Roman JOINT WORKSHOP WITH CITY OF ALBERTVILLE November 2, 2005 Roll Call: Otsego City Council: Mayor Larry Fournier, Councilmembers Mark Thorsted, Jessica Stockamp, Dan Scharber and Vern Heidner. City Staff: City Administrator Michael Robertson, City Clerk Judy Hudson, and City Engineer Ron Wagner. Albertville City Council: Mayor Don Peterson, Councilmembers LeRoy Berning, Tom Fay, Ron Klecker, and John Vetsch. City Staff: City Administrator Larry Kruse. Mayor Fournier called the workshop to order at 7:00 p.m. The Councils discussed the following issues. NEW MACIVER Otsego stated that they had improved MacIver Avenue along their joint border and that Albertville owed them 50% of the costs of that improvement. Otsego estimated Albertville's share at approximately $51700,000. Albertville suggested that if they improved Old MacIver they could pay for Otsego's portion (estimated at $137,000) as part of Albertville's contribution for their share of New MacIver Avenue. Albertville also suggested that they could contribute the road fees provided by the Hunter's Pass addition (estimated at $138,000) and give Otsego credit ($25,000) for a portion of the traffic light Albertville installed at CSAH 37 & I-94. This would leave Albertville approximately $200,000 short. Albertville suggested that they should not have to pay the entire amount because part of their land adjacent to MacIver is a swamp and is not developable. They offered an additional $80,000. Otsego did not agree, stating that they made developers pay their entire share for any road even if part of it was not developable. Both staff s agreed additional analysis would be done to pin down the actual cost associated with the segment of street abutting the two communities. OLD MACIVER Albertville indicated they wished to improve Old MacIver Avenue, a portion of which is adjacent to Otsego. Otsego's share of the improvement would be an estimated $137,000. 70TH STREET (MACIVER TO CSAH 19) Otsego would like to improve 70th street in 2006. Albertville said that it would be willing to improve the road and pay 50%. They were somewhat concerned about the timing and said they did not think they would have the funds in 2006. They suggested they could pay their share a year or two later. T-h@y also said th@y , „ia pay 4Ptwgo was willing to eont, ibute on the 104 T„te- -..1,. nge project. CSAH 19 & 70TH STREET Albertville would like to widen CSAH 19 from two to four lanes, plus right and left turn lanes, from 67th Street north to 70th Street in 2006. As part of this improvement Wright County would require that the four lane improvement be continued north of 70th Street for approximately 1,000 feet. Albertville would like Otsego to pay for the portion of the improvement north of 701h Street. The total cost of the improvement would be paid for by Wright County (48%), Albertville (31.5%), and Otsego (20.5%). Otsego's estimated cost was $603,000. Otsego said that it was not ready to commit to this improvement in 2006 at this time and suggested a meeting with Wright County to confirm the design and the County's willingness to pay. 16ZI 101 Y DI:iy I /:11►144 M Albertville stated they have been seeking a design acceptable to MNDOT and Federal Highway to solve long-term transportation problems on I-94 and connecting County Roads. To date the City has paid over $200,000 towards this effort. Albertville has decided to seek a comprehensive project which includes a full collector distributor (CD)system which has the ability to be phased. Albertville's goals has always been to preserve full access at CSAH 37 and create full access at CSAH 19. It has been determined that a full CD project could exceed 20 million dollars excluding right of way. Albertville stated they can not afford a project of this size and if it can not get financial assistance from the City of Otsego, Wright County and other agencies, it may have to consider a phased approach which may for a while remove the westerly ramps on CSAH 37 and install two new ramps on CSAH 19. Albertville has not made any decisions on a project at this time, and invited the City of Otsego to participate in coming together to build a larger more comprehensive project that will be acceptable to most parties. City Administrator Kruse suggested that there is an opportunity now to leverage financial contributions from the undeveloped land in both cities. If an agreement on a larger more comprehensive project is not achieved and a phase approach is initiated, it may limit the opportunity to tap those funds later. Albertville stated that after many meetings with MNDOT and Federal Highway, at a staff level they agree that the proposed phased Collector Distributor system would meet their transportation and safety requirements. nz4@Fezang@ &T oTn ,rc T-h@y felt this; `s`o&is thPiz taffts F0hIPM AP CSC 37 hotzz,00r C-S nu 10 ffind Ton This project 4 A4; 04imAtodoa ;P..o iIIi ,, this deli.,, .,4,.7 that it.z,.,s ., doifl0 be a eelleetef disfilibutof ffofAage fead system that would eest an estimated twenty Otsego registered great objections to the proposed removal of ramps on the I-94/CSAH 37 interchange. They indicated they thought the majority of the traffic problem was caused by traffic going to and from the Albertville Outlet Mall, and that Albertville could have addressed some of the traffic issues when the Mall was built. Otsego expressed reluctance to financially participate in I-94 improvements. Albertville stated that the Wright County Transportation Study along with traffic modeling showed that based on current growth trends these roads systems will fail in the near future_ Albertville attributes a portion of the benefit of a larger more comprehensive I-94 project to property owners in Otsego. Albertville thought a portion of the traffic problems were primarily caused by residential growth in the surrounding area, and that traffic problems would get worse as western Otsego developed. Otsego noted that it had paved MacIver Avenue specifically as an alternative to get people from Otsego to the Twin Cities without having to use CSAH 19 or go through Albertville. Otsego stated that one quarter of the I-94/CSAH 37 interchange, along with one the ramps proposed to be removed, was partially located in Otsego. They stated they would not give municipal consent to any attempt to remove it. Albertville invited the City of Otsego to financially invest to preserve and improve the I- 94 access. Otsego requested Albertville put on a presentation on the I-94 project using traffic modeling simulations and other information. The two cities discussed a possible joint sharing of the associated meeting cost, and after some discussion Albertville volunteered to pay for this cost. Albertville will present a tentative date for the joint meeting. JMULTIPLE PROJECT FUNDING - Formatted: Font: (Default) Times New - q lbertville requested that the two cities try- - and reach an agreement for all of the -above Roman, sold -------------------------------------------------- ---- projects in concert rather than to continue to have these various issues hang out there and - - Formatted: Font: (Default) Times New Roman be a bone of contention. Otsego rejected this idea. The two staffs will continue to work to resolve these issues. SCHOOL SITE The Councils discussed that the St. Michael -Albertville School District was looking for a new high school site. FIRE CONTRACT Albertville estimated the cost for Otsego will be $35,200 in 2006. They asked that Otsego keep updating the Albertville Fire Chief with new maps. OTSEGO CREEK IMPROVEMENT Otsego updated Albertville on its plans to clean Otsego Creek this winter. It would be cleaned at least as far as the Section 30 wetland, which is the portion of Otsego Creek where Albertville is responsible for partial funding. Albertville asked that an Otsego Creek Authority meeting be set up to review the plans. 70TH STREET ACCESS Both Councils discussed the possible location of future accesses on 70th Street. With no other business, Mayor Fournier adjourned the meeting at 10:15 p.m. harry Kruse - - Formatted: Font: (Default) Times New Roman City Administrator •ti 1CV ��•7 � � �. . �. murm • . . ... .. .. . . .. . . . .