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CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
CITY HALL - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Monday, April 29, 2019
APPROVED MINUTES
1. Call To Order
Mayor Hendrickson called the meeting to order at 7:53 p.m.
Present: Mayor Hendrickson and Council members Cocking, Halling, Olson and Vetsch
Absent: None
Staff Present: City Administrator-PWD Adam Nafstad, City Attorney Mike Couri, Fire
Chief Eric Bullen, City Planner Alan Brixius, and City Clerk Kimberly Hodena
Others Present: Henry Hansen, Noah Larson, and Scott Dahlke of Doug A. Carlson,
Inc., County Commissioner Mike Potter, Planning Commissioner Walter Hudson
2. Heuring Meadows High Density Residential Plan
Brixius reported the 11 acre lot along the west side of CSAH 19 and north of 53`d Street NE is
currently guided and zoned commercial B2. The previous concept had three apartment
buildings with quadraminiums. The concept plan proposes 160 apartments in the two
buildings, 20 quadraminium units a six unit townhome and a commercial lot for a 12,000
square foot daycare facility. The units will all be market rate rental units. Brixius explained
that the applicant is seeking Council feedback on this concept prior to creating detailed
development plans and submitting formal application; this will save the applicant significant
plan and application fees should the concept be rejected. Brixius further explained that the
concept is in conflict with the current land use plan and would require a comprehensive plan
amendment, rezoning, preliminary and final plat, and planned unit development (PUD)
concept.
Brixius detailed the access to the site, stating a traffic study would be required to identify
needed traffic controls. The applicant provided a narrative detailing the concerns previously
expressed regarding the apartments. Brixius stated that concerns from last year also included
traffic, renter vetting, and amenities.
Vetch inquired about green space for older children rather than only playground equipment for
younger children. Brixius reported that there is limited greenspace in the concept that would
not accommodate a large soccer field, etc. and Nafstad did state the concept would bring
significant park dedication funds. Vetsch also felt the city wouldn't be flush with profit from
this development and they need to be careful when considering the concept. He also had
concerns with the rental units generating additional calls for law enforcement. Hendrickson
inquired about green space for the daycare and Hansen replied the play area would be fenced
in. She felt the quadraminiums are a good buffer to the neighborhood to the west. She wants
to be sure that parking regulations are enforced. Cocking asked if there will be covenants put
in place or if that makes it less marketable. Hansen felt they could control regulations through
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the lease agreements and the leases provide more control to correct issues.
Cocking stated he is concerned about future owners and if the buildings become deteriorated
and no longer fit with the vision plan. He was also concerned with removing a prime piece of
land for commercial use. Even if the Council is on board with the concept, he sees that it could
be a concern in the future. Hansen replied it is mostly long term holding companies that own
these. He also indicated that market rate apartments require underground parking. Cocking
inquired if there really is a demand for that type of housing and Hansen replied there most
definitely is. He stated people are having a hard time finding apartments they find desirable.
Surrounding cities have built a couple of recent buildings and they are at 100% occupancy.
However, there isn't much in STMA and people want to live where there are good schools. He
also stated that younger families don't want a traditional home and would rather not have
maintenance to do. Hansen also felt the concept will help the local businesses. Other benefits
include a larger tax base, park dedication and payment of SAC/WAC fees. He felt the concept
is a good compromise with fulfilling housing needs and retain some commercial use on the
site. Hendrickson stated that businesses have expressed their desire for more housing for their
workers.
Nafstad inquired if the city can influence the management style in the development agreement.
Couri reported they may be able to but would need to be careful about violating any
constitutional rights.
Larson reported what they are seeing is that renters are renting by choice rather than necessity
and they put amenities in to keep renters at the property.
Nafstad stated he expects there to be many public comments from the neighborhood to the
west. Cocking inquired about a buffer/barrier between the single family dwellings and the
proposed concept. Hansen replied that there is an existing berm with trees and they could
possibly add to that; he would not want to see it taken down in order to put in a fence.
Halling inquired about the quality of materials, if it will be similar to the Cottages of Towne
Lakes. Hansen replied that wood floors are not conducive to rental, but they could do marble
countertops and similar exterior materials. Halling inquired about the green space and if there
will be a pool. Hansen stated they would hope for a pool and most renters prefer an indoor
pool. Hendrickson wanted to be sure there was adequate underground parking. Brixius stated
the anticipated number of cars would be two per unit, with one underground stall and one
outdoor stall.
Hudson stated he was glad to see a concept for the lot as. it has sat vacant for quite some time.
The alternative is to let it stay. -vacant.
Olson expressed concerns with having daycare parking right along CSAH 19 in such a visible
location. He inquired if the playground could be switched to that location and parking in the
back of the building. Hansen replied the business owner had concerns with a playground right
next to a high traffic road, even though it will be fenced in. Dahlke stated the daycare
provider was concerned about errant vehicles and also wants the front of the building to be
visible as they have certain architecture used at their other location. He also reported there will
be a garden area for the Montessori school. Olson suggested then removing a third row of
parking to bring it down to two rows instead. Nafstad stated the importance of adequate play
area and Hansen stated they will also have a gym type area in the building. Hendrickson
inquired why the pond was so large and Dahlke stated that it is required.
Council felt the Planning Commission should see the concept plan and see if they are
supportive of it before making formal development application. Brixius stated it will be
brought to the next Planning Commission meeting in May.
3. Cielo Property Uses
Brixius reported staff received an inquiry about potentially allowing a cabinet shop as a light
industrial use at the location. He stated it is currently zoned B3 and inquired if Council has
any interest in allowing that use. Vetsch stated he was not opposed and would consider it.
Cocking had some concerns as that is an entrance into a large neighborhood and if there would
be odors, noises, etc. Bullen stated the building is already sprinkled. Nafstad reported staff
has had a good number of inquiries on that lot for many types of uses.
4. LMC Conference, June 26-28
Nafstad inquired any of the Council was interested in attending. Halling was interested as well
as Hendrickson but could only attend June 26-27.
5. LGN D.C. Fly -In, July 24-25
Cocking would like to see the I-94 Coalition take the lead on lobbying efforts and Nafstad
replied 2019 is a transition year and hopefully that will be the case next year. Cocking felt July
is not an appropriate time to go to D.C. and they should wait until September. Nafstad will get
back to the group.
6. Adjournment
Motioned by Hendrickson, seconded by Olson, to adjourn the meeting at 9.22 p.m. Ayes:
Hendrickson, Cocking, Halling, Olson and Vetsch. Nays: None. Absent: None. MOTION
DECLARED CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kimberly A.Hodena, City Clerk