1988-01-28 PC Minutes
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
JANUARY 28, 1988
The regular meeting of the Albertville Planning Commission was called to
order by Chairman Brian Bebeau. Memebers present included Donatus Vetsch,
Don Berning and Mark Daleiden. Member Herb Scherber was asbent. Others
present included Maureen Andrews.
There was a motion made to approve the minutes of the January 14, 1988
Planning Commission. The motion was made by Donatus Vetsch and seconded
by Don Berning. All were in favor and the motion carried.
Mr. John Darkenwald, Mr. George Yankoupe and Mr. Wally Odel were present
to discuss the concept plan for the Darkenwald development on the Becker
Farm. The Planning Commission had seen the concept plan prior to this meeting
so the major focus was on Phase One of the development.
The Darkenwald group asked for the Planning Commission's thinking on the
overall project. There was some discussion on the area of land that is
being set apart for the commercial development. In order for the Commission
to get an idea of what would go into a 13 or 14 acre commercial development
the developer showed them some similiar types of development.
Roqer's Commercial Corner--approximately 16 acres which has the
following improvements-Burger King, MacDonald's, motel, truck wash
and the Union Oil station.
Elk River--approximately 6 acreas with between $5-6 million dollars
worth of improvements. The site is proposed to have a 24,000 square
foot strip center, Super America and a family type eatery.
Coon Rapids--approximately 6 acres with 98,000 square feet of
commercial improvements on the land.
The developers stated that they have no doubt that the Commercial development
will take place once the residential development has occurred. And that
the commercial area they plan on developing will include a strip center
and free standing buildings in the front of the strip center.
The developers discussed the demensions of the land being proposed--at its
narrowest point the land set aside is 500 feet but that the average is 600
feet and there is 900 linal feet of frontage on County Road 19. The developers
expressed their concern about getting good achors into the strip center
in order the project to be self supporting.
The developers next went on to discuss the multiply family housing. In
the first phase they are looking to develop four 24 unit apartments, which
will serve as a good buffer. between the single familyre~idential and the
freeway.. They also explained that they were interested'in keeping the
multiple units on cal-du-sac to keep the traffic generated by the apartments
off the local streets.
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The developer pointed our to the board members that they had made a change
from the orginal concept plan in the area of the entrance. In the first
plan the entrance to the residential area had two 18 unit apartment complexes
(one on each side of the street), instead they have decided that it would
be better to bring the single family up to the entrance so not to mix the
uses. In addition the developer is thinking about developing some type
of entrance with a sign giving the name of the subdivision.
Other issues discussed included ttle use of duplexes and townhouses as a
buffer between the commercial and the residential. The plan is to build
duplexes but the firm will look at the possiblity of townhouses as well.
The plan would be that these units would be located on lots with zero lot
lines
There was also some discussion regarding the use of berming and plantings
to seperate the single family from the multiple and commercial development.
At this time the developers showed the Planning Commission some examples
of some lot subdivisions. They had maps and pictures of these subdivision
to help the Planning Commission visualize what how the small lot concept
works.
In the samples the developers showed the Commissioners saw the use of narrow
lots, use of cal-du-sacs'and streets that have been curved to slow traffice
down. They went on to transfer these concepts onto their own plan using
many of the same features.
There was also some discussion regarding the issue of park land and its
effect on density. When including the park land dedication the developers
are looking at approximately 2.5 homes per acre, without the park Yand
there will be approximately 3.1,acres.
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The developers pointed out that they plan on building tot lots in the area
of the multiple housing tokeep the kid traffic out of the residential areas.
When discussing the park area the developers would like to see bike paths
and walking paths into the park area.
The first phase is expected to be 50 plus homes plus 4 apartment complexes.
Average lot size will be between 9,500 and 10,000 square feet. The developers
have assured the planning Commission that they are developing a working
covent on the land require that certain stipulations are met.
It was then suggested that it might be helpful if the developers shows how
the houses on the smaller lots, in order to give the Planning Commission
a beeter idea how the lot layout would look.
Other items discussed were the average lot price ($69,000.00-$89,000.00),
that there will be full basements under each of the houses, and that they
will be doing the ruff grade prior to the first phase being started.
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The plan will be to do the first lift of blacktop and curb and futter, and
then next year complete the street.
The development should be completed in 3 to 4 years. There was no other
discussion, so the developers thanked the Planning Commission for their
time.
1here was amotion to adjourn made by Mark, seconded by Brian. All were