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2000-09-13 PC Minutes . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES Wednesday, September 13,2000 (1) CALL TO ORDER - ROLL CALL - ADOPT AGENDA PRESENT: Chair Jim Brown, Commission Members Carolyn Bauer, Ed Budde, Ray Meyer, Ron Klecker, and Council Liaison John Vetsch, Zoning Administrator Kevin Mealhouse, City Planner Cindy Sherman, City Engineer Pete Carlson, and Deputy Clerk Bridget Miller Chair Brown called the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission to order. Amendments to the Agenda are as follows: Move Item 4.B. to 2.B. on the agenda Add Item 4.D. - Consider Special Meeting on the Agenda - BK Concept Plan Bauer made a motion to approve the amended agenda. Brown seconded the motion. All voted aye. . (2) MINUTES a) August 9, 2000, regular meeting Bauer made a motion to approve the minutes. Budde seconded the motion. All voted aye. Chair Brown asked John Vetsch to report on the Council's decision was on the Park Dedication fees. John Vetsch reported that the Council approved $1,500 per residential unit and $7,385 per acre for commercial/industrial properties. b) Outlets at Albertville II - Site Plan Chair Brown asked JMJ Developers to present their site plan. Bobbie Morse shared with the commission and members of the audience the success of the Outlet stores. He anticipates that it will start to slow down some with the winter season coming up in a few months. It will be busy again with the holiday season. . Chair Brown then asked the City Planner and City Engineer to share their concerns or issues regarding this site plan. City Planner Sherman apologized for not grabbing the report Deb Garross had prepared. She did go over the issues that were covered in the Memo presented in the packet. The main concerns were: the lot size, increasing the building size for the original plat, parking spaces decreased by 2-3 stalls and the traffic. . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION September 13, 2000 Minutes Page 2 of 6 City Engineer Carlson presented the commission and JMJ Developers with a layout of the traffic flow that could possibly work. He informed them to keep an open mind. This is what SEH/RCM had drawn up for suggestions on the flow of traffic in and around the mall. He did mention that there would be additional traffic lights on CSAH 19. A traffic count study has been done on the left turn lanes entering the mall off of C8AH 19. With the diamond shaped design on CSAH 19 it would allow for two (2) left turn lanes into the mall. With the layout he has presented there would be some need to fill in the wetlands area. He is working with the DNR as to the concerns on this issue. The wetlands area near this development is not as endangered as others that are out there. Therefore would not be much of an issue if we filled them in. . City Engineer Carlson also reported that the MnDOT is doing a study on I-94's corridor from the metropolitan area to 81. Cloud. It will not be completed until 2001. MnDOT is looking at the number of interchanges there are on 1-94 and wheres the best location for future interchanges. MnDOT would consider approving the interchange for C8AH 19 but will not aid in the cost of the interchange. You would be working with the Federal government on this and the timeframe you are looking at would be about 3-4 years. Then add an additional 1-2 years for construction on top of that. You would be looking at about 5-6 years for completion of the interchange. Chair Brown wanted to know more about this information and more details. City Engineer Carlson told the commission that he is working on a report to present to the City Council at the October 2, 2000 meeting. At that time he would pass the information on to the Planning and Zoning Commission members. Chair Brown asked about the possibility of having the back entrance marked for emergency entrance only. City Engineer stated that it could be done. Whether it would benefit from it or not, he didn't know. Council Liaison Vetsch asked if there was going to be a sidewalk or some type of pedestrian walkway off of C8AH 19 going into the mall area. City Engineer didn't know anything about that. He did state that there would be some kind of a trail going down C8AH 19 in the ditch area. . Commission member Klecker asked if the first entrance into the parking lot for Building C could be moved more towards the middle of the building. JMJ stated that is what they had proposed allowing the customers to go either left or right to fill in the parking spaces. Bridget's computer C:\My Documents\P & Z meetings\M 9-13-00.doc . . . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION September 13, 2000 Minutes Page 3 of 6 Council Liaison Vetsch asked if there were going to be any additional fire hydrants. JMJ explained to the commission that there are sprinkler systems in all of the stores. Zoning Administrator Mealhouse informed them that it would be a costly expense to put an additional fire hydrant in for the existing buildings A and B. The Fire Chief did look over the plans and felt it met the requirements necessary in case of a fire. Chair Brown made a motion to approve the Site Plan contingent on City Planner Garross's report, the Fire Department issues, and the City Engineer's issues on traffic. Bauer seconded the motion. Bauer, Klecker, Brown and Budde voted aye. Meyer voted no. (3) PUBLIC HEARING a) Albert Villas 4th Addition - continue Public Hearing to October 10th meeting Chair Brown opened the Public Hearing at 7:55 p.m. City Planner Sherman reviewed the report presented in the packet. She went over the PUD and the only benefit to the City would be the narrow lots. Matt Davich, representing Albert Villas, brought forth a larger scale of the concept plan. The Commission members went through the eight items that were purposed for the PUD. A. Innovations in development. . . . . Staff noted that there was nothing out of the ordinary presented with this issue. B. Higher standards. . . . . Staff noted that there was nothing out of the ordinary presented with this issue. C. More convenience in location. . . . . Staff noted nothing out of the ordinary - more efficient. D. The preservation. . . . . Protected the ditch and lake shore, minimum wetland fill. Bridget's computer C:\My Documents\P & Z meetings\M 9-13-00.doc . . . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION September 13, 2000 Minutes Page 4 of 6 E. A creative use. . . . . Staff noted nothing out of the ordinary. F. An efficient use of . . . . . Chair Brown and staff noted this is repetitive to other items above. G. A development pattern in . . . . . Staff noted that a PUD is not intended as a means to vary applicable planning and zoning principles. H. A more desirable and . . . . . There is less street therefore providing more useable land. Chairs Brown suggested the developer continue with the explanation. City Planner Sherman did reaffirm the Chair that it is up to the Commission to approve the PUD or leave it zoned RI-A. Commission member Budde questioned if there would be sidewalks along both sides of the street. It could be a plus to the development. Commission members Bauer and Meyer had concerns with the lot widths. Commission member Klecker would like to stay with the RI-A zoning setbacks. Commission member Budde would consider working something out. Work with some of the lot widths; possibly eliminating some of the lots. Chair Brown also commented on the lot widths - he would not go any lower than 95' lot widths. Zoning Administrator Mealhouse quickly counted and figured about 2/3 of the lots are about 100' widths or wider. Council Liaison Vetsch was leaning towards the 15' side setbacks in the RI-A zoning versus the 10' setback set for the PUD zoning. Commission members would like to see 50% of the lots with a width of 100'; and 50% of the lots with a width of90'. They would like to see a 30-40' trail comparable to the trail connecting to St. Michael. Bridget's computer C:\My Documents\P & Z meetings\M 9-13-00.doc . . . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZoNING COMMISSlON September 13, 2000 Minutes Page 5 of 6 Chair Brown suggested making a motion to continue the concept plan to the October 10, 2000 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Chair Brown closed the Public Hearing at 8:40 p.m. Budde made a motion to continue the Concept Planning to the October 10, 2000 meeting. Bauer seconded the motion. All voted aye. (4) OTHER BUSINESS a) Concept Plan - Leuer Munstertieger Property Chair Brown asked the audience who was here representing this development. Scott Dahlke got up and briefly went over what they had proposed. They are asking the Commission to consider re-zoning from B-2 to B-3. This would allow the option of a restaurant or a motel on the lot. Chair Brown recalls it initially was zoned R -1 and when the Comp Plan came through it was re-zoned to B-2 to compromise the rest of the areas around it. Scott Dahlke presented what they would like to see in the Concept Plan. Chair Brown does not see them rezoning it to commercial or B-3. The Commission has expressed their concerns and wishes to leave it zoned as B- 2 at this time. Once there is more details as to who or what they want to put into the outlot - then the commission would consider looking at re-zoning it to B-3. The Commission noticed the dotted line on the concept plan. They questioned what there intents for this was. Dahlke commented that they would like to add 67' to the existing B-2 zoning. The developer would like to have the Commission's insight as to how to present the concept plan to the Council. The Commission wanted to ensure that when they came in to discuss the Commercial Outlot piece there would be a buffer along the border of the residential zoning and the commercial zoning. Bridget's computer C:\My Documents\P & Z meetings\M 9-13-00.doc . . . CITY OF ALBERTVILLE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION September 13, 2000 Minutes Page 6 of 6 b) Schedule Public Hearing to Consider Increasing Maximum Garage Size and Minimum House Size Commission will schedule on the October 10, 2000 agenda to consider increasing the maximum garage size and minimum house size. c) Commission to Consider Special Meeting to Discuss the Burger King Concept Plan A motion was made to move the Burger King Concept Plan to the October 10, 2000 meeting. They did not want to schedule a special meeting. (5) ADJOURNMENT Bauer made a motion to adjourn at 9:30 p.m. Klecker seconded the motion. All voted aye. Bridget's computer C:\My Documents\P & Z meetings\M 9-13-00.doc