2002-03-12 PC Minutes
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CITY OF ALBERTVILLE
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
ApPROVED MINUTES
March 12, 2002
1. CALL TO ORDER - ROLL CALL - ADOPT AGENDA
Vice-chair Budde called the regular meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission to
order.
PRESENT: Vice-chair Ed Budde, Commission members Ron Klecker, Tim Sweeney, and
Tom Fay, Council Liaison LeRoy Berning, City Planner Cindy Sherman, and Deputy Clerk
Bridget Miller.
Klecker made a motion to approve the agenda as amended. Fay seconded the motion. All
voted aye. Motion carries.
2.
Appoint Commission Chairman
Klecker made a motion to appoint Vice-chair Budde as the new Chair of the Planning and
Zoning Commission. Sweeney seconded the motion. All voted aye. New Chair of the
Planning and Zoning Commission is Ed Budde.
New Chair Budde made a motion to appoint Ron Klecker as the new Vice-chair of the
Planning and Zoning Commission. Sweeney seconded the motion. All voted aye. New
Vice-chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission is Ron Klecker.
Appointment ofthe new Commission member is held offuntil April or May. Leslie Fessler
has since moved to S1. Michael. Charles Fritz was out-of-town- unknown ifhe is still
interested.
Council Liaison Berning made a motion to advertise for a vacant position on the Planning and
Zoning Commission.
3. MINUTES
a)
Klecker wanted the January 8, 2002 Joint Planning and Zoning Commission and City
Council minutes be amended on page 2, paragraph 14. Motion to approve the
Temporary Structure Ordinance. Chair Brown, Commissioners Fay, Budde, Sweeney,
Mayor Olson, Council members Berning, Wallace, Franklin, and Vetsch voted aye.
Klecker voted nay. Motion Carries.
Klecker made a motion to approve the January 8, 2002 minutes as amended. Fay
seconded the motion. All voted aye.
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b) Klecker made a motion to approve the February 12,2002 minutes as amended. Sweeney
seconded the motion. All voted aye.
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a) Coborn's
Chair Budde opened the Public Hearing at 7:07 p.m.
He turned it over to the City Planner Sherman to go over the background and summary of
the Coborn's site plan.
City Planner Sherman talked about the application is being made to allow the platting and
development of a grocery store including a gas/convenience store, video store and liquor
store incorporated into the design on one lot and a shopping center on a second lot.
The Coborn's building is proposed to be 50,000 square feet in size and will be one level.
The exterior of the structure is proposed to be constructed of predominately Random Rib
Precast Panel with rock face block and stucco enhancements at the entrances on the north
and west dies of the building. A mix of materials to provide some visual break should be
provided on the east and south sides of the building.
The shopping center is proposed to be constructed of rock face block with accent banding
provided around the sides and rear of the building. The front of the building incorporates
a variety of designs and materials to create individual storefront appearances. A mix of
materials or design should be included on the rear of the building and sides of the
buildings to break up the long wall.
Chair Budde asked ifthere was anyone present representing this Preliminary Site Plan.
Jay Borne was present representing the Coborn's Store. He went into some detail on the
site. He commented that there would be some landscaping to buffer from residential.
There was some comment about submittal of a lighting plan. The only thing in question
was the canopy of the gas station. The commission wants to see that before approving.
Commission member Fay asked about the canopy - Casey's is definitely easier on the
eyes in comparison to the Mobil Gas Station.
Representative for Coborn's went into more detail on the lighting. They would go with
the same as they did in Delano.
Chair Budde had a concern with the amount of dirt that is on the site.
There was a question about the dirt on the site. What will happen to that? Jay Borne
commented that the dirt has been there for quite some time. They will use some of the dirt
for berming and some for fill, any remaining will be hauled away.
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There was a question about the road or street - how far will it go.
The road will go to the property line at this point. When the outlots become developed the
road will continue at that time.
Chair Budde asked about the zoning of the drive-thru type of store.
City Planner Sherman commented a coffee shop or a bagel store would fit into the zoning
for the site.
When the PUD was originally draw up it was noted for the possibilities of a day care or an
office type building.
Berning asked about the original Concept Plan. He thought there was more buffer
between the commercial and the residential. He asked about the walkways throughout the
development.
Berning had a question about the signage.
City Planner Sherman informed Berning that a sign package 30-feet is the height of the
package. They are proposing a 35-foot each individual sign as a trade.
Chair Budde asked if there was anyone in the audience who had questions or concerns
regarding this public hearing.
John and Jill Lidberg of 5501 Lachman Avenue had a concern about the lighting. They
notice the Outlets at Albertville mall and how the sky seems to glow at night from all the
lights they have. They didn't realize that Coborn's would be open 24-hours. John was
hoping that the lighting would be reduced in the evening/night hours.
The parking lot lights are proposed to be the shoe box type of lights. So the lighting will
be directed more towards the ground.
Again there was mention of the berming and possible fencing.
The drainage was brought up, as there seems to be a pond on the site now. The drain will
be below Lachman Avenue.
A question about the Park Dedication fees - where will those funds go. Jill was
wondering, as there is no park near the Park View Place development.
John asked what would happen to the trees on the site.
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City Planner went over the types of possibilities that could go in as far as replacing the
trees in the landscaping of the site.
Fay asked about the parking lot and signage for no parking or will it be marked as "no
parking" .
City Planner Sherman asked if they provide the Council with the expansion of the
building at the April 15, 2002 City Council meeting. This would give the staff time to
review the information.
It was questioned if there is enough room for the drive-thru lane.
Chair closed the public hearing at 8:10 p.m.
Klecker made a motion to table the Public Hearing to the April 9, 2002 Planning and
Zoning Commission meeting. Sweeney seconded the motion with the additional
recommendation from staff. All voted aye.
b) B-2A District
Chair Budde opened the Public Hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Chair Budde to turn it over to the City Planner Sherman to update the commission
members what changes there were to the District changes.
City Planner Sherman briefly went over what was discussed at the January 9th Joint City
Council/Planning Commission workshop. She commented about the potential
implementation of a new commercial zoning district for the County Road 19 corridor
north ofl-94. In addition to creating the new B-2A district, the ordinance also: 1)
establishes new impervious surface coverage requirements in the "B" and "I" districts;
and 2) strengthens the language on requiring perimeter concrete curbing in parking lots.
Council Liaison Berning had a question regarding the new B2-A Zoning restrictions. He
asked that the Commission go back to what we wanted in the first place which was "NO
MORE GAS STATIONS".
Chair Budde asked if we incorporate the B-3 Restaurant verbiage with the Conditional
Use Permit information. Maybe we could modify the language of the truck/auto repair
portion as well.
Berning had additional comments about the classification to work out.
City Planner Sherman commented on the building set backs and modifications to other
parts of the B2-A District. We can put in Special Landscaping requirements also.
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Berning asked Mr. Mooney, who was in the audience, his opinion about the landscaping
along County Road 19 that he experienced.
Mr. Mooney felt the request was minimal. He was restricted to putting in a sprinkler
system along County Road 19 at the county level. They had a hard time keeping the
grass watered that they were eventually allowed to extend it out to reach the grass.
Chair Budde closed the public hearing at 8:56 p.m.
Fay made a motion to approve the B2-A District modifications. Sweeney seconded the
motion with the modifications made. All voted aye.
5. ADJOURNMENT
Klecker made a motion to adjourn. Fay seconded the motion. All voted aye.
Meeting adjourned at 9:04 p.m.